Quick Questions

billybob9187 · 06-17-2008, 12:49 AM

I am going to be purchasing some watercooling pieces to try and save my e6300 since its far inferior. I will be buying a quad core soon but want to mess this cpu up playing with overclocking. My questions are simple i hope.

I am looking to buy a pump at home depot since my friend can hook me up. Its for a pond but it has an inlet and outlet of 1/4" amd can push 1250L/hr. I was convinced on this and will be getting it for 35$. I am sold on it

The items i am questioning are these

http://www.xoxide.com/swiftech-dual-quiet-radiator.html

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118042

Also can i use alchoal as a coolant? A friend recomended it because of the lower freezing point but i am not sure it would be good for the pump or will pump as well. I need some thoughts on these things please. I plan on purchasing these things on Friday

CreatedMind07 · 06-17-2008, 08:09 AM

alchoal would dry out the tubing. And the rings in the pump and the rings on the blocks.

Just use coolant for PCs or some distilled water. It's not like you'll get cold enough to freeze them anyways.. Unless you live on the north poll. :-/

And I wouldn't use a pound pump. It's going to be loud!!!

obobskivich · 06-17-2008, 11:44 AM

yeah, pond pumps are louder than a banshee, but they'll drive a huge head and push a lot of water

as far as using alcohol, DN alcohol freezes at around -70 degrees centigrade, but you'll never see guys running it 100% (firstly because it dries the tubing like created has stated, and secondly because it'll explode (it, like all alcohol, will burn like hell (literally) at the drop of a hat))

the way to do sub-Z temps for cheap is a mixture of snowmobile/extreme antifreeze, DN alcohol, and either distilled water or PC coolant (the ratio of these three affects A) how long your tubing lasts B) how much it costs and C) how cold it can go before it gets icey, and theres other, more technical ways, to depress the freezing point as well)

honestly I'd go with coolant designed for PCs above anything else, because it'll help prevent corrosion if you mix metal types, and its not very expensive (AF is a close second, its just that AF is toxic as a mother, smells, stains, and you cant buy small containers of it)

distilled water is great, except you gotta cycle it, or somehow prevent it from getting things growing (no way your tubing/pump/etc are 100% sterile out of the box)

**Duke3d87** · 06-17-2008, 03:44 PM

the WB is also nothing to write home about. It should be ok for lower heat outputs, but i doubt it could handle some of the more extreme stuff like your future quad. Spend like $30 more the D-teck Fuzion.

Also, get a DC pump. it's easier to deal with as you won't have random wires coming out of your pc and you don't need a relay. I've used exclusively aquarium pumps and honestly, they weren't very good (hydor). I mean they were, but they started to rattle and that's not what you want coming out of your pc.

As far as the coolant, alcohol will evaporate rather quickly and you don't want to be breathing in those fumes.

I've used antifreeze, it's not that bad. it smells funny and isn't good for you. But go for the extra as obob said and go for real coolant. When you just use normal distilled water, you grow algae and it's a pain to clean out (been there done that).

obobskivich · 06-18-2008, 05:53 AM

alcohol is what i'd consider "an extreme cooling solution", you dont wanna run it in a water loop (but in liquid cooling, yes, for sub-Z)

but yeah, just get the proper coolant
algae is a mother-F*** to clean lol, and with the proper coolant, you dont need to go 100% with it (you can, but its excessive) its designed to mix in with distilled water to save you $$$ and whatnot, just read the directions lol

furball zen · 06-18-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by obobskivich

alcohol is what i'd consider "an extreme cooling solution", you dont wanna run it in a water loop (but in liquid cooling, yes, for sub-Z)

but yeah, just get the proper coolant
algae is a mother-F*** to clean lol, and with the proper coolant, you dont need to go 100% with it (you can, but its excessive) its designed to mix in with distilled water to save you $$$ and whatnot, just read the directions lol

Actually a 100% AF isnt as efficient as a mix is. In other words, its worse than straight water.

Personally in my turbo Talon i ran a 35/65 AF/water ratio and it kept it happy running 18+PSI on pump gas in the summer in KY.

Granted, were talking computers, not cars, but the mechanics still apply.
And YMMV.

obobskivich · 06-19-2008, 06:14 AM

uh, i never talked about running 100% AF, read what i'm posting before being a dick

furball zen · 06-19-2008, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by obobskivich

uh, i never talked about running 100% AF, read what i'm posting before being a dick

>proper coolant, you dont need to go 100% with it (you can, but its excessive)

You did, but i didnt think i was being a dick....

obobskivich · 06-20-2008, 03:18 AM

i said you could go with computer coolant, like the zalman stuff, not AF, sorry for the misunderstanding

and i said its excessive (prolly should've added "as hell") but it has a lower freezing point than water and is cleaner/better to run than AF (mostly because its not as toxic)

CreatedMind07 · 06-20-2008, 01:21 PM

Thanks for the neg rep and the PM that I couldn't understand! I gave you neg rep because you are the one being a dick!

furball zen · 06-20-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by obobskivich

i said you could go with computer coolant, like the zalman stuff, not AF, sorry for the misunderstanding

and i said its excessive (prolly should've added "as hell") but it has a lower freezing point than water and is cleaner/better to run than AF (mostly because its not as toxic)

Ah, no problem :)