Sapphire Ati Radeon 9600se

deepblue · 02-24-2004, 10:53 PM

I'm not a hardcore gamer. I need an average video card, deffenently don't need a top-of-the line card. So hows this one: SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 9600SE Video Card, 128MB DDR, 64-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "ATLANTIS RADEON 9600SE" -RETAIL ? (ASUS P4P800 Deluxe mobo

Specifications:
Supported CPU: Socket 478 Pentium 4/Celeron Processors
Chipset: Intel 865PE + ICH5R
FSB: 800/533/400MHz
RAM: 4x DIMM support Dual Channel DDR400/333/266 Max 4GB
IDE: 2x UltraDMA 100 up to 4 Devices; 2x UltraDMA 133 by VIA 6410 up to 4 Devices, RAID 0/1/0+1/JBOD
Slots: 1x AGP 8X/4X, 5x PCI
Ports: 2xPS2,1xCOM,1xLPT,1xLAN,1xSPDIF Out,2xIEEE1394(Rear 1),8xUSB2.0(Rear 4)
Onboard Audio: AD1985 6-Channel CODEC
Onboard LAN: 3COM Gigabit Ethernet
Onboard SATA/RAID: 2x Serial ATA 150, RAID 0/1
Form Factor: ATX )

Thanks

deepblue

Crash-n-Burn · 02-24-2004, 10:54 PM

someone correct me if im wrong but dont all se's suck.

deepblue · 02-24-2004, 10:56 PM

I'm asking you.

TimPincin · 02-24-2004, 11:22 PM

if you arent going to be doing anything special, i dont see why that wouldnt work

Dreamreality · 02-25-2004, 01:00 AM

yea thats fine. i got the 9000pro for my dads machine and all he does is surf the net. still waiting for it. but i plan on gaming on it once in a while too hehe. how much is the 9600se? but yea its definatly fine, it can still play most games.

Zaph · 02-25-2004, 08:00 AM

Depends on the type of gaming you want to do. If you want a descent frame rate on most of the new shooters then I would atleast go with 9600 Pro or better. If you usually just play 2D or low-poly-count 3D then the SE would be ok. I personally think the GF MX440 8X is a slightly better card for the money over the SE's. SE are just too stripped of all the good stuff that the Radeons have to offer.

Dai_Shan · 02-25-2004, 08:25 AM

if you are looking at that card....i would look at pricewatch or newegg for the cheapest card you can find....cause this card is one of the slowest around...so it best be the cheapest around(i doubt it) considedr the 9000pro or ti4200(if you can find it cheap) or a mx460

deepblue · 02-25-2004, 09:30 AM

Is $100 a reasonable price for an average card? I don't know what to look at so since you all seem to know your video cards, I'm asking you for a reccomendation. Again I'm not a hardcore gamer, but I do some gameing. Thanks.

deepblue

Dreamreality · 02-25-2004, 10:09 AM

ok then for less than $100 i would go for the ti4200-ti4400 series. there right around that price. and they play alot of the new games well. like battlefield and etc. but dont count on it to do well with hl2 comes out. but nowadays $150 is the average for a nice vid card.

Zaph · 02-25-2004, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepblue

Is $100 a reasonable price for an average card? I don't know what to look at so since you all seem to know your video cards, I'm asking you for a reccomendation. Again I'm not a hardcore gamer, but I do some gameing. Thanks.

deepblue

Here are two articles that might be of some help.

Price guide
http://www.sharkyextreme.com/guides/article.php/3315941

Performance charts
http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031229/index.html

**Airmack** · 02-25-2004, 10:30 AM

acording to that chart, a 8500 beat a 9000... lol

Zaph · 02-25-2004, 11:18 AM

I'm not a big fan of THG either but that's the only place I could find a comparision chart. If you want you could search for reviews for all the cards in your budget range and try pick the best one base on the reviews. Each card, no matter who makes it, will be slightly different because there is not a perfect design or manufacturing process.

Dai_Shan · 02-25-2004, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airmack

acording to that chart, a 8500 beat a 9000... lol

aaah in most every review i have seen this has been the case, (model numbers are usually misleading)

Here is one example of such: (from digilife, if you doubt TH's objectivity/competence)
http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/...s-1024-p4.html

atirules · 02-25-2004, 12:02 PM

I heard of people buying the 9600 and converting them to 9600 Pro but can't find the article on it.

NightHeart · 02-25-2004, 04:11 PM

If you can get the plain 9600 (non-pro but not an SE) then that would be better. At least then you have good gaming and it still costs less than $100. The SE does suck though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airmack

acording to that chart, a 8500 beat a 9000... lol

That's because the 8500 is faster. The 8500 will usually beat a 9000, 9100, and even the 9200.

deepblue · 02-25-2004, 04:16 PM

Thanks for your advice. I have decided that I might go with the Radeon 9600 ($125 @ NewEgg), but this one caught my eye also:http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...alog=48&depa=1 ($130 @ NewEgg)

deepblue

NightHeart · 02-25-2004, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepblue

Thanks for your advice. I have decided that I might go with the Radeon 9600 ($125 @ NewEgg)

Why not get this one: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...102-305&depa=0 since it's only $95? That would save you a lot of money.

deepblue · 02-25-2004, 04:53 PM

Yeah.... but what about the XFX nVIDIA GeForce FX5600 ULTRA(link above)? I just dont want to end up with a steaming pile for a video card. Get one and find that it sucks and then find that I can't return it and I'm stuck with it(or I could get different one, but its a waste of money) Any suggestions on reasonably priced monitors?

Dreamreality · 02-25-2004, 05:42 PM

i'm pretty sure the 9000 PRO can beat the 8500.